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TigerHeart
05-15-2006, 04:24 AM
Blancbald was curious how I specced my warrior, so I figured I'd share it on here. I wanted the 'core' prot talents and decided to go a lil crazy experimenting elsewhere. I'm pretty happy with it. Anyways, here is the link to it:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?pVhx0hbZVVuo0hZVV00x
Comments are welcome.
EDIT: Another spec I was playing around with and came up with as well, that I've been thinking of trying out was:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?LVGxzhboZVVuZVV00x
-TigerHeart
Asstool
05-17-2006, 01:32 PM
Not sure what you are trying to accomplish with either spec
TigerHeart
05-17-2006, 01:59 PM
I was just playing with specs. I wanted to come up with a good 'viable' spec for both tanking and damage, that also gave me both piercing howl and tac mastery. Seems to work pretty good with both, with the first one (which I'm using now).
So far, I'm topping damage charts with just about any other class with MCish gear or lower by a good margin, and still get the basic bonuses in prot (and most of my dps gear is crap). I went from a build similar to:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?TV0hZVVzZEV0Ie00d
(Which I leveled with until I hit 60), then I went to this. It's pretty fun, but I think I'm going to try the other one this week after I farm a lil cash to do it with. SS sounds pretty cool, but I love enrage too. I guess the biggest bonus is going to be I can use SS when I want, whereas enrage I need to be 'unlucky' and get hit with a crit.
-TigerHeart
Asstool
05-17-2006, 02:04 PM
31/5/15
TigerHeart
05-17-2006, 02:27 PM
Yeah, I've seen too many MS or BT builds, I wanted to try something different :P. I hate being 'just another *insert build type here*'. I like to think there's more then 2 or 3 different viable build 'numbers', assuming a fixed 15 points in prot. Also, going that way does not net me PH, and I kinda like the damage bonuses from both impale and imp cleave. I'm trying to look at strange, and exotic, yet highly viable builds here :).
-TigerHeart
Meides
05-17-2006, 03:54 PM
For the longest time I had 10 points in protection, and lots of fury ( <3deathwish, mostly as a fear resist, but still he he) but experiencing more of the raid content has shown me that being a hybrid really doesn't work as well in many situations as just doing one or the other primarily.
If you're wanting to tank the big critters, lots of protection just makes sense, for the sheer damage mitigation, and hence survival - nevermind better tools to lock those critters down from the insane dps'ers that strut around these parts.
If you are just offtanking, with a focus on dps, then why wouldn't you build for dps? Right now I went with BT, but I'm seriously considering giving MS a try. I'm working to kill stuff now, and I still eat dirt quite a bit. Mmm, dirt sammiches, mmm repair bills. Lol.... But no, I can't rightly comment on which does better dps/survivability untill I've tried both for myself.
I know I can still slap on a shield and stam/tanking gear and at least hold something down reasonably well, so long as my healer knows I'm not specialized for it. Heh. The few times the other five warriors died and I was next in line (*coughcromcough*) I crumpled in about three hits without a shield on.
As reference, I believe Kalrol is 2h furious and deals in pain, but he both has insane monster gear *and* is hard as hell to keep alive. =) This from trying to be his priest a few times, lol.
I think the rest of the warriors who outshine me are Mortal strikers, no? Moo, Cent, Sander, Tanke?
Anyway, thats why we can respec, to experiment with new stuff and find something we like. I must say though that my survivability and versatility in everything <mc was unparalelled as a hybrid. +defense and +armor was great vs rogues in the pvp too, but thats not a concern you have.
For expansion content and new or current 5-10 elf dungeons, hybrid warrior builds might be the way to go - The wave of the future! For mc-type raid content, you're trading optimisation for versatility, and not really excelling at either.
Also, I've been meaning to sit down and talk shop for a while now =D
Kudos to blizzard for making a game that takes two minutes to learn to play, but with a curve that still has you learning stuff about what your character can do over a year down the road =p
31/5/15
That was my spec (surprise surprise) with my PvP warrior on Maelstrom. I was off-tanking in MC much of the time so I needed some type of tanking abilities.
One thing to note however, is that I didn't go into defense in the protection tree. I went into shield block. Sounds crazy right? It was to accent the shield block gear that I had built up, and it really worked well for me. I felt like I was blocking just about everything. Not to mention the extra rage coming in! yumyum
My Prot build 1.10 (I got a good geared mage if I needed DPS)
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?TV0xZZEizIeM0zt
And 1.11
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?TV0xZZEizIeMxzz
(hope that 10% sta talent is real at that spot, that pwns.)
My Goal is to become a guild's backup tank with decent gear (close to 6k hp unbuffed atm) and for 5/10/20 mans, and when people get really bored with MC, I can take their spot for tanking most non-bosses.
I tried MS builds, I tried fury builds, But its nowhere as near as my mage dmg so I'm not going to bother anymore trying to be a dps warrior alt.
Meides
05-18-2006, 10:33 AM
That seems solid Teri! But what about iron will? I haaaate being stunned or whatever while trying to tank.... maybe moving two from imp block, two from tac (only really dance to execute, which is 15 rage) and, hmm.
*gameshow music*
I'd take one off defiance maybe. Mowr. Sunder more. Heh. >.>
Blancbald
05-19-2006, 12:17 AM
Nice Tiger,
I thought P-Howl was not still working..... and Sweeping Strike was not up to snuff yet either. (Been a while since I dabbed in the wow forums) As for Iron Will, some say the return isn't that great and not to waste the points.
I Just received my 5th Valor Part... but what kicks me is my Knight-Leut Gear is close to the specs of the valor stuff... If anthing the main reason I like Prot is the C-Blow.. very handy to control peeps... (Unless I make my Dark Iron Pulverizer) Just one of those "Build for pvp or Raiding" moments.
Jack of all trade might work, but I have to think for the buds that need me as I am the only main Tank toon in our little group.. excluding the Gnomish Tank for the Win .. aka Screwy. ;)
As time progresses, and fundage is a bit easier to acquire. I can play around with the respecing... Still always nice to see what others are doing, for some of the build options are enticing.
As of now I am this
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?TV0xbZVcZxizsx00dt
Almost typical prot build, I put 3 in to the Unbridled Wrath to help get up some rage quicker... and I only did that a week ago....
We will see as time goes on...
TigerHeart
05-19-2006, 03:38 AM
If I switched back to a full prot build, I would probably go something towards:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?TV0hZZEizIeMxdz
Although I may go back to a similar spec I used when I leveled my toon to 60, the build I came up with that I was using then that worked very well as well was:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?pV0hZVVzZEV0Ie00d
I loved that spec, I was able to solo mobs that there was no way I was able to do in other spec (like normal mobs 4-5 levels above me, and elites 2-3 above me), because they were stunned more then they were doing damage, and when they did damage, 90% of it was blocked. I'd probably end up switching a few things around and getting vitality as well, perhaps going for something like:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?TV0hZVVzZEV0sx0xd
ditching imp sunder, and perhaps (not sure) imp shield bash. I love the guaranteed silence though when going up against casters.
I wanted to go a somewhat damage spec to try it out, but I still love tanking more then doing damage overall. While damage is fun, damage mitigation, and hate control is more fun. One of the main reasons I wanted to try some damage build experiments, just to see what I could do with the crappy DPS gear I have. So far, I'm extremely impressed with how well a warrior can deal with large numbers of mobs. I can't remember who it was (kal maybe?), but someone told me how they 'defined' the imp cleave spec, so I figured I'd see what I could do incorporating it. The build I use now I swear upped my damage by at least ten fold, if not more, at least in average instances (since there is multiple mobs per pull on almost every pull).
-TigerHeart
EDIT:
(only really dance to execute, which is 15 rage)
I love dancing for 'zerker rage as well... it's quite a nice rage filler :). If I'm not generating much rage for some reason, I can switch to zerker, pop 'zerker rage, switch back to defensive, and watch my rage bar fill on up.
Meides
05-19-2006, 10:49 AM
I love dancing for 'zerker rage as well...
Oh yeah. I'm almost always zerking, so I overlooked that, he he.
Also I seldom have rage problems while being wailed on by mobs in star tanking roles - switching to zerker mode, plus the dang universal cooldowns, might equate with a dead Mei. =l
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